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		<title>By: ruby</title>
		<link>http://pigpog.com/2007/02/02/moleskine-v-filofax/comment-page-1/#comment-4842</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 05:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another thought: I bought my Filofax 2nd hand on the fleamarket but it was as good as new. You can&#039;t buy 2nd hand Moleskine notebooks though.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thought: I bought my Filofax 2nd hand on the fleamarket but it was as good as new. You can&#8217;t buy 2nd hand Moleskine notebooks though.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://pigpog.com/2007/02/02/moleskine-v-filofax/comment-page-1/#comment-3644</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is very helpful as I&#039;ve used an A5 Filofax for the past couple of years, fairly happily, but am thinking of switching to a large Moleskine notebook and the large Moleskine planner. The cost of the Filofax refills can really start to get prohibitive if you work your system hard. Even finding A5 paper is hard, and I&#039;m not sure I want to spend more money on a Filofax hole punch. It seems really, really expensive for what it does. Just buying the ream of A5 here in the US, a 2008 calendar and the Filofax punch is going to cost me $71--I could buy the Moleskine notebook and planner for the whole year and it costs half that. Granted, Moleskine is not as flexible, but I sort of like paging back through my old Moleskines--can&#039;t do that with the Filofax.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very helpful as I&#8217;ve used an A5 Filofax for the past couple of years, fairly happily, but am thinking of switching to a large Moleskine notebook and the large Moleskine planner. The cost of the Filofax refills can really start to get prohibitive if you work your system hard. Even finding A5 paper is hard, and I&#8217;m not sure I want to spend more money on a Filofax hole punch. It seems really, really expensive for what it does. Just buying the ream of A5 here in the US, a 2008 calendar and the Filofax punch is going to cost me $71&#8211;I could buy the Moleskine notebook and planner for the whole year and it costs half that. Granted, Moleskine is not as flexible, but I sort of like paging back through my old Moleskines&#8211;can&#8217;t do that with the Filofax.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://pigpog.com/2007/02/02/moleskine-v-filofax/comment-page-/#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Because of &quot;what I do&quot; (or at least, what I&#039;m known for), I tend to experiment a fair amount. I always keep a central hub of information, such as contacts, calendars and project info, but what I use for my day-to-day productivity will vary from month to month. One month I&#039;ll use a Hipster PDA, the next my Day Runner classic, the next a pocket Moleskine, and so on. (And then there are the weird things I experiment with.) This is less for my own personal edification, and more for the &quot;testing&quot; of D&#042;I&#042;Y Planner projects. However, I&#039;ve never really thought too much about costs. I&#039;m glad you wrote this article, because it triggers some considerations that should be an integral part of the project.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regarding costs, it&#039;s a little different over on this side of the pond. A decent Mead or PlanAhead 3-ring &quot;classic&quot; binder (5.5&quot;x8.5&quot;, similar in dimensions to A5) will start at about $15 USD. A really good Day Runner one (such as the one I own) starts at about $45 USD, and that includes inserts like calendars and contacts. It&#039;s thus a lot cheaper for the basic binder.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I purchased an inexpensive adjustable 3-ring punch for about $5 USD, and a decent guillotine for $35. Paper runs about $5.00 for 500 24lb 94 bright white letter-size sheets, which is very, very high-quality paper perfect for forms. This can be professionally chopped for $5 extra (or free, if you cozy up to a copyhouse clerk).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, by the math above, let&#039;s see....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;$45 USD for good-quality leather binder&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;$12 for year of paper (and pro-chopping)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;$15 for ink (depending on printer)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;$5 for punch (assuming 3-hole, though 6- or 7-hole is about $25-30 USD)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...Which makes for $77 USD, which is about 44 UK pounds, only about 150% of the cost of the Moleskines, and that gets you a nice leather tricked-out binder with accordian pocket, card slots, portfolio area, tabbed dividers, about a hundred pages of inserts, and so on. Subsequent years would be $27 USD each, or about 15 GBP, or about 30% the cost of the Moleskines. So there&#039;s some more cost savings over here, but the comparisons are similar.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, there&#039;s one thing I&#039;d like to add to your list above with regard to pros and cons. You alluded to it with regard to forms, but I&#039;d venture to push it a step further: structure. Many of us are inherently disorganised, and having a free-for-all structure like a blank Moleskine or notebook tends to amplify productivity issues. With the structure and &quot;prompting&quot; of the forms, it&#039;s a bit easier to know what to put down and where, and finding things can be just as effortless. Any sort of unstructured notebook is great as a creative dumping ground, but using it as a productivity aid requires a lot of vigilance, dedication and strict methodology. Although, using one in combination with a Hipster PDA, especially one decked out with some (ahem) D&#042;I&#042;Y Planner hPDA calendars, action lists, project cards, and so on, can help overcome some of the difficulties that are naturally addressed by using a Filofax/Day-Timer/Day Runner.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That all being said, this article is &lt;em&gt;great&lt;/em&gt; food for thought, Michael. I&#039;ve always pushed the &#039;Planner as a way of saving money, but it was always in comparison with the $0.20/page commercial forms. In all this time, I&#039;ve never really thought about comparing it with other productivity methods.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;all my best,
dj&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--
D&#042;I&#042;Y Planner : http://www.diyplanner.com
a million monkeys typing : http://www.douglasjohnston.net&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because of &#8220;what I do&#8221; (or at least, what I&#8217;m known for), I tend to experiment a fair amount. I always keep a central hub of information, such as contacts, calendars and project info, but what I use for my day-to-day productivity will vary from month to month. One month I&#8217;ll use a Hipster PDA, the next my Day Runner classic, the next a pocket Moleskine, and so on. (And then there are the weird things I experiment with.) This is less for my own personal edification, and more for the &#8220;testing&#8221; of D&#42;I&#42;Y Planner projects. However, I&#8217;ve never really thought too much about costs. I&#8217;m glad you wrote this article, because it triggers some considerations that should be an integral part of the project.</p>

<p>Regarding costs, it&#8217;s a little different over on this side of the pond. A decent Mead or PlanAhead 3-ring &#8220;classic&#8221; binder (5.5&#8243;x8.5&#8243;, similar in dimensions to A5) will start at about $15 USD. A really good Day Runner one (such as the one I own) starts at about $45 USD, and that includes inserts like calendars and contacts. It&#8217;s thus a lot cheaper for the basic binder.</p>

<p>I purchased an inexpensive adjustable 3-ring punch for about $5 USD, and a decent guillotine for $35. Paper runs about $5.00 for 500 24lb 94 bright white letter-size sheets, which is very, very high-quality paper perfect for forms. This can be professionally chopped for $5 extra (or free, if you cozy up to a copyhouse clerk).</p>

<p>So, by the math above, let&#8217;s see&#8230;.</p>

<ul>
<li><p>$45 USD for good-quality leather binder</p></li>
<li><p>$12 for year of paper (and pro-chopping)</p></li>
<li><p>$15 for ink (depending on printer)</p></li>
<li><p>$5 for punch (assuming 3-hole, though 6- or 7-hole is about $25-30 USD)</p></li>
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<p>&#8230;Which makes for $77 USD, which is about 44 UK pounds, only about 150% of the cost of the Moleskines, and that gets you a nice leather tricked-out binder with accordian pocket, card slots, portfolio area, tabbed dividers, about a hundred pages of inserts, and so on. Subsequent years would be $27 USD each, or about 15 GBP, or about 30% the cost of the Moleskines. So there&#8217;s some more cost savings over here, but the comparisons are similar.</p>

<p>However, there&#8217;s one thing I&#8217;d like to add to your list above with regard to pros and cons. You alluded to it with regard to forms, but I&#8217;d venture to push it a step further: structure. Many of us are inherently disorganised, and having a free-for-all structure like a blank Moleskine or notebook tends to amplify productivity issues. With the structure and &#8220;prompting&#8221; of the forms, it&#8217;s a bit easier to know what to put down and where, and finding things can be just as effortless. Any sort of unstructured notebook is great as a creative dumping ground, but using it as a productivity aid requires a lot of vigilance, dedication and strict methodology. Although, using one in combination with a Hipster PDA, especially one decked out with some (ahem) D&#42;I&#42;Y Planner hPDA calendars, action lists, project cards, and so on, can help overcome some of the difficulties that are naturally addressed by using a Filofax/Day-Timer/Day Runner.</p>

<p>That all being said, this article is <em>great</em> food for thought, Michael. I&#8217;ve always pushed the &#8216;Planner as a way of saving money, but it was always in comparison with the $0.20/page commercial forms. In all this time, I&#8217;ve never really thought about comparing it with other productivity methods.</p>

<p>all my best,
dj</p>

<p>&#8211;
D&#42;I&#42;Y Planner : <a href="http://www.diyplanner.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.diyplanner.com</a>
a million monkeys typing : <a href="http://www.douglasjohnston.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.douglasjohnston.net</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pigpogm</title>
		<link>http://pigpog.com/2007/02/02/moleskine-v-filofax/comment-page-/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>pigpogm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the extra info, Doug.  I need to update the article a little, anyway, as I picked up my own Filofax for £17 - a fair bit under the £30 I said they start from.  The higher-end Filofax ones &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; quite beautiful quality items, though - I&#039;ve spent enough time in Staples fondling its soft leathery bits to worry that they&#039;re going to ban me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Fortunately, Staples over here sells blank A5 paper by the ream, so I think the A5 option is the best here.  I hadn&#039;t realised until reading it on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diyplanner.com&quot;&gt;DIY Planner&lt;/a&gt; after writing this that the &lt;em&gt;classic&lt;/em&gt; size is half US letter.  Over here, of course, all the standard paper sizes are half of something else - A5 is half of A4, which is half of A3, etc, and there&#039;s A6 (half A5) and so on down in size too.  That probably means that the &lt;em&gt;classic&lt;/em&gt; size makes most sense over there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, and yes, the ink is something I conveniently ignored in my calculations, even though our printer is almost out of both of its black cartriges, and is going to cost us over £20 to fill up again.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe PDAs should be in the comparison too?  The initial cost is higher again, but the running costs are pretty low - it&#039;s just the odd SD card and one or two Astraware games a month  - ok, maybe not so low ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the extra info, Doug.  I need to update the article a little, anyway, as I picked up my own Filofax for £17 &#8211; a fair bit under the £30 I said they start from.  The higher-end Filofax ones <em>are</em> quite beautiful quality items, though &#8211; I&#8217;ve spent enough time in Staples fondling its soft leathery bits to worry that they&#8217;re going to ban me.</p>

<p>Fortunately, Staples over here sells blank A5 paper by the ream, so I think the A5 option is the best here.  I hadn&#8217;t realised until reading it on <a href="http://www.diyplanner.com">DIY Planner</a> after writing this that the <em>classic</em> size is half US letter.  Over here, of course, all the standard paper sizes are half of something else &#8211; A5 is half of A4, which is half of A3, etc, and there&#8217;s A6 (half A5) and so on down in size too.  That probably means that the <em>classic</em> size makes most sense over there.</p>

<p>Oh, and yes, the ink is something I conveniently ignored in my calculations, even though our printer is almost out of both of its black cartriges, and is going to cost us over £20 to fill up again.</p>

<p>Maybe PDAs should be in the comparison too?  The initial cost is higher again, but the running costs are pretty low &#8211; it&#8217;s just the odd SD card and one or two Astraware games a month  &#8211; ok, maybe not so low <img src='http://pigpog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://pigpog.com/2007/02/02/moleskine-v-filofax/comment-page-1/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My house is beginning to be taken over by punches.  I have a single hole punch - a 99p electronicBay purchase, a standard (heavy duty) 2 hole, a 4 hole for the A4 Filofax, a 6 hole adjustable that does Pocket and Personal Filofaxes and recently a Rollabind turned up in the post with loads of discs.  I have now reached critical mass on the punch front and really cant justify any more.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My house is beginning to be taken over by punches.  I have a single hole punch &#8211; a 99p electronicBay purchase, a standard (heavy duty) 2 hole, a 4 hole for the A4 Filofax, a 6 hole adjustable that does Pocket and Personal Filofaxes and recently a Rollabind turned up in the post with loads of discs.  I have now reached critical mass on the punch front and really cant justify any more.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eye</title>
		<link>http://pigpog.com/2007/02/02/moleskine-v-filofax/comment-page-/#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had a look at the a5 filofax. It&#039;s biiiig! So wide for just an a5 page. I&#039;ll pass. But it makes me wonder why there aren&#039;t more folders for a5.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a look at the a5 filofax. It&#8217;s biiiig! So wide for just an a5 page. I&#8217;ll pass. But it makes me wonder why there aren&#8217;t more folders for a5.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The empty binders are only available in A4.  However, cheap A5 binders can usually be found on eBay.  We&#039;ve got a few we could do with putting up there ourselves, actually.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the info about the punch!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sam Randall&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Ain&#039;t Life Grand?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The empty binders are only available in A4.  However, cheap A5 binders can usually be found on eBay.  We&#8217;ve got a few we could do with putting up there ourselves, actually.</p>

<p>Thanks for the info about the punch!</p>

<p>Sam Randall<br />
<em>Ain&#8217;t Life Grand?</em></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eye</title>
		<link>http://pigpog.com/2007/02/02/moleskine-v-filofax/comment-page-/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator>eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You can find 6 ring punches elsewhere:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rapesco.com/punching/product.asp?id=PF66P0B1&quot;&gt;Rapesco&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mayfairstationers.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=2265&quot;&gt;Mayfair Stationers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I wasn&#039;t aware that filofax now did A5 folders. I gave up with my 80s filofax (real and knock-off) because I couldn&#039;t get paper to fit. A5 was too big, A6 too small. Anything else took so much trouble to cut up. But if  the a5 six-ring rings are the same dimensions as the personal organiser six-ring rings...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, the above punch is adjustable, so you can slide the two sets of three punches close together for mini-filofaxes.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find 6 ring punches elsewhere:
<a href="http://www.rapesco.com/punching/product.asp?id=PF66P0B1">Rapesco</a>, <a href="http://www.mayfairstationers.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=2265">Mayfair Stationers</a></p>

<p>But I wasn&#8217;t aware that filofax now did A5 folders. I gave up with my 80s filofax (real and knock-off) because I couldn&#8217;t get paper to fit. A5 was too big, A6 too small. Anything else took so much trouble to cut up. But if  the a5 six-ring rings are the same dimensions as the personal organiser six-ring rings&#8230;</p>

<p>Also, the above punch is adjustable, so you can slide the two sets of three punches close together for mini-filofaxes.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pigpogm</title>
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		<dc:creator>pigpogm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, we have a single punch, and they work pretty well.  The biggest problem for Filofax use is that Filofaxes use smaller holes, so the paper doesn&#039;t &#039;rattle around&#039; so much - keeps it in place a bit better.  Should still work well enough, though.  I&#039;m just using the &#039;real&#039; Filofax punch at the moment.  It&#039;s ok, but only five sheets at a time, and needs emptying far too often.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we have a single punch, and they work pretty well.  The biggest problem for Filofax use is that Filofaxes use smaller holes, so the paper doesn&#8217;t &#8216;rattle around&#8217; so much &#8211; keeps it in place a bit better.  Should still work well enough, though.  I&#8217;m just using the &#8216;real&#8217; Filofax punch at the moment.  It&#8217;s ok, but only five sheets at a time, and needs emptying far too often.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pigpogm</title>
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		<dc:creator>pigpogm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The ones I&#039;ve seen have all been standard 4-hole - nice and cheap and easy.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ones I&#8217;ve seen have all been standard 4-hole &#8211; nice and cheap and easy.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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